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		<title>By: HidayahTech &#187; Blog now completely Creative Commons-licensed</title>
		<link>http://www.basilgohar.com/blog/2006/02/23/social-networking-online-projects/#comment-7877</link>
		<dc:creator>HidayahTech &#187; Blog now completely Creative Commons-licensed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Abu Hurayrah</title>
		<link>http://www.basilgohar.com/blog/2006/02/23/social-networking-online-projects/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Hurayrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key to the success of social networks is that you've put the power of (borrowing the terminology of Bradley Horowitz) &lt;b&gt;creating&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;synthesizing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;, and then &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;consuming&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;completely&lt;/i&gt; in the hands of the community, with only minor interference from the ones running the site.

The director of a site would actually &lt;i&gt;harm&lt;/i&gt; the site if he were to interfere too heavily.  One has to know where the project is going to lead in the long term ahead of time, and direct it before it reaches critical mass, if he wants it to go in a certain direction.

The reasons the communities like Slashdot, Flickr, &#038; others are so "irreplaceable", as you've mentioned, is because they are fulfilling a need.  They also came about at a time when it was ripe.  Something like Slashdot persists because it feeds this need, even if it is not the most efficient (look at the number of comments that are related JUST to complaining about the posts on Slashdot).

It's a discussion that's worth a more in-depth look.  How to apply these common principles to an Islamic market becomes more complex, because we don't want to &lt;i&gt;enable&lt;/i&gt; people to do characteristically &lt;i&gt;unislamic&lt;/i&gt; things with the software we write.  The design, therefore, has to be clear from the beginning to lead the community only in the directions or manner we want.  This goes against the more broadly-based principles of other social networking projects, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to direct the audience of a project.  For example, take Slashdot - you don't find many posts about cars, or psychology, or humanities, or other "non-techie" things, because they would never fly.  And the comments &lt;i&gt;generally&lt;/i&gt; follow that same pattern.  This is due to numerous factors - not the least of which is that the content is &lt;i&gt;targetted&lt;/i&gt; towards that kind of an audience.  Moreover, the Slash engine provides the moderation &#038; meta-moderation system, whereby the audience themselves can vote down inappropriate or irrelevant comments.  Therefore, if you attract the audience you want, then put in their hands the tools to keep things working on a massive scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key to the success of social networks is that you&#8217;ve put the power of (borrowing the terminology of Bradley Horowitz) <b>creating</b>, <b>synthesizing</b><b>, and then </b><b>consuming</b> <i>completely</i> in the hands of the community, with only minor interference from the ones running the site.</p>
<p>The director of a site would actually <i>harm</i> the site if he were to interfere too heavily.  One has to know where the project is going to lead in the long term ahead of time, and direct it before it reaches critical mass, if he wants it to go in a certain direction.</p>
<p>The reasons the communities like Slashdot, Flickr, &#038; others are so &#8220;irreplaceable&#8221;, as you&#8217;ve mentioned, is because they are fulfilling a need.  They also came about at a time when it was ripe.  Something like Slashdot persists because it feeds this need, even if it is not the most efficient (look at the number of comments that are related JUST to complaining about the posts on Slashdot).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a discussion that&#8217;s worth a more in-depth look.  How to apply these common principles to an Islamic market becomes more complex, because we don&#8217;t want to <i>enable</i> people to do characteristically <i>unislamic</i> things with the software we write.  The design, therefore, has to be clear from the beginning to lead the community only in the directions or manner we want.  This goes against the more broadly-based principles of other social networking projects, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s impossible to direct the audience of a project.  For example, take Slashdot - you don&#8217;t find many posts about cars, or psychology, or humanities, or other &#8220;non-techie&#8221; things, because they would never fly.  And the comments <i>generally</i> follow that same pattern.  This is due to numerous factors - not the least of which is that the content is <i>targetted</i> towards that kind of an audience.  Moreover, the Slash engine provides the moderation &#038; meta-moderation system, whereby the audience themselves can vote down inappropriate or irrelevant comments.  Therefore, if you attract the audience you want, then put in their hands the tools to keep things working on a massive scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarfaraz Jamal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarfaraz Jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>INteresting, when i read the article on jermeeys blog, i  brought it to the attention of my wife immediately, and mentioned - see, what his co-worker (the engineer) was saying, thats what it's all about in the Islamic Market. (I was agreeing with the engineer, that they could have just built in in 6 months).

in the last couple of months, we have also kinda decided to structure out entire company more towards writing social software.

Though, certain communities do have a certain feel that seems not to be 'replaceable' such as slashdot, flickr, i dont think the same applies for any notable islamic online communities, just my thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INteresting, when i read the article on jermeeys blog, i  brought it to the attention of my wife immediately, and mentioned - see, what his co-worker (the engineer) was saying, thats what it&#8217;s all about in the Islamic Market. (I was agreeing with the engineer, that they could have just built in in 6 months).</p>
<p>in the last couple of months, we have also kinda decided to structure out entire company more towards writing social software.</p>
<p>Though, certain communities do have a certain feel that seems not to be &#8216;replaceable&#8217; such as slashdot, flickr, i dont think the same applies for any notable islamic online communities, just my thought.</p>
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